Guided by Voices -- box set VU -- box set Puressence (hightly recommended on chams list; actually sounds good) rhythm of youth, people who own a copy: mshute@aol.com (auctioning starting at $100, 95.sept.06) reto koradi, kor@spectrospin.ch (has all men w/o hats (on disc?)) daigles@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Daigle Stephane)? people willing to make a tape of Fall's Palace_of_Swords_Reversed: will o'conner, willoc@hooked.net (http://www.hooked.net/users/willoc) Kitchens of Disticntion have two awesome singles: they are responsible for two of the greatest singles that the UK indie scene has produced - "The Third Time We Opened The Capsule" (on "Love is Hell") and "Drive That Fast" (on "Strange Free World") burgess: Sin, Always Want; Paradyning Prick -- s/t (1995) Rancid -- and out come the wolves (1995, w/ time bomb) ? Helium -- Garbage Alanis Morisette hagfish -- rocks your lame ass (hard-edge pop/punk) the chemical bros. -- exit planet dirt (?) -- techno/rock fusion va"artina tape from neal: the offspring(?) song "keep them separated" talking heads -- true stories That noteworthy has (not on wish list): alanis morisette #uZiq vs Auteurs (notworthy 11.45) Rolling Stones: hot rocks happy rhodes rem - monster nik kershaw - anthology (?) cyndi lauper - first? Talking Heads -- remain in light Drums of the bora bora: 11.99 (songs of tahiti) vangelis -- themes (grts hits)? Naw... jon anderson -- deseo -- the deseo remixes Blur The Kinks -- come dancing Sonic Youth -- E.V.O.L. Le Mystere Des Voix Bulgares Vivaldi -- seasons Shiela Chandra Zap Mama metallica ministry Violent Femmes Satie klesmer music Just can't get enough -- vol 3 (What I Like, 88 Lines (Lene Lovich)) the who -- who's better who's best among noteworthy wish list: L. Cohen -- recent, songs from a room, songs of l.c. Dvorak -- slavonic dances Marshall Crenshaw King Crimson -- concise Talking Heads -- The name of the group is ..., remain in light rolling stones grtst hits (hot rocks) L.Cohen tribute Sisters of Mercy tribute? max roach (percussion, borrow from rph) XZTC tribuite new julian cope: 20 mothers pdq bach: music for an awful lot of winds & percussion For Britt: J Siberry K Bush -- Kick Inside Waterboys -- best of Suzanne Vega -- 99f^o *Black 47 *Cranberries For Mom: Xmas collection (Roches?) For Dad: Chieftans (he really liked Bells of Dublin) via ear-rational: B-52s collection ("Dance this mess around" or something?) Black Tape for a Blue Girl - Mesmerized by the Sirens Projekt $13.00 V/A - Industrial Revolution: 2nd Edition (2-CD) Cleopatra $17.50 Einstuerzende Neubauten - Haus der Luege Thirsty Ear $13.75 # Chameleons - Northern Songs (pix) Bone $21.50 Coil - Scataology [sale list $1 off] $16.50 Guided by Voices - Vampire on Titus Scat $12.75 Reegs - Return of the Sea Monkeys Imaginary $16.50 King - Steps in Time - OGL81567; Richard Blade's Flashback Favorites, vol. 4 (OGL 17513); Flashback! New Wave Classics (OGL 57944) B-52's - Best of Island $20.00 Big Country - Collection 82-88 (17 tracks) Connoisseur $12.00 Coil - Horse Rotorvator import $17.50 Einstuerzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch WSFA $17.50 Trio - S/T Mercury $17.75 Das Ich - Staub Danse Macabre $18.25 # Snog - Clishe EP Machinery $12.50 # U2: "When Love Comes to Town" single (still in print) is b/w Dancing Barefoot The Fan and The Bellows new model army -- thunder & consolation Strangelove snog Ofra Haza -- Yemenite Songs; Shaday Death In June Das Ich Nurse With Wound Not Drowning, Waving His Name Is Alive Levitation The Reegs Weaveworld (John Lever?) The Thin Men (Niel of SoG) The Convent (dutch, recommended on net, mark produces) Jane Siberry The_Walking, or specklessSky (poppy), boundByBeuaty, whenIWasBoy. Toni Childs Julian Cope Ecto-recommended: Emily Bezar Stoa (DCD-ish) Magnapop (basic crunchy pseudo-alternative-pop stuff) meryn cairns Janie Mitchell Red hot chili peppers w/ give it away now; the psychedelic song sheila chandra -- weaving my ancestor's voices [real world] hannibal/ryker sampler: has Ivo Papasou Malicorne Trio Bulgarka Muzsikas Orbestra flight of the green linnett [ryko] straight to hell soundtrack? meryn cadell -- angel food for thought Lareena McKennith Huun-Huur-Tu -- 60 horses in my tribe Reptile (manic icelandic) B-52's -- Dance this Mess Around Flock of Seagulls gr. hits? Coil -- Horse Rotovator (or any other) Talking Heads -- Remain In Light Capt. Beefheart: \in\set{TroutMaskReplica, LickMyDecals, DocAtTheRadarStation, ShinyBeast} Wire -- the A-list Butthole surfers? The Fall Crime & the City Solution freur iggy pop? tangerine dream? penguin cafe orch? king crimson? to put on net cdWantlist: DM ultra rarities ($15) Marshall Crenshaw ($10) ryko "steal this disk 3" has bowie's "heroes/helden" on it. (track1: sein o!) recommended from chameleons list: Soundbliss@aol.com The Doors - "The End" ... okay, okay.. it's pretty bombastic. But the remastered gold CD edition is awe-inspiring. The depth of drums and sheer dynamics are largely unchallenged. "Sing Sing Sing" from "Big Band Hit Parade." This is the disk I used when I tried out my speakers. This is simply the best big band classic songs disk ever recorded. The band? Erich Kunzel directing the Cincinnati Pops Big Band Orchestra with special guests Dave Brubeck on piano, Cab Calloway on vocals, Gerry Mulligan on Bari Sax, Doc Severinsen on trumpet, Ed Shaughnessy on drums, Buddy Morrow on trombone, Eddie Daniels on clarinet and Ray Brown on bass. Absolutely flawless. And "Sing Sing Sing" breaks out in a ferocious percussive rumble from Shaughnessy's drums. The recording (Telarc, 1988) is a wonderful tester due to the dynamics, warmth, clarity, depth and superior musicianship. In fact, Telarc was so confident that it listed every type of mike, processor-- all recording equipment-- in the liner notes. In fact, 24 Verve Cindytalk -- Camouflage Heart (best); also good: Wappinschaw. Red House Painters: >I highly agree with the Red House Painters recommendation. I would, >however, recommend either the self-titled album with the rollercoaster >or their newest release -- Ocean Beach. Although none of their LPs are >exactly up-beat, I think the bridge LP is a little bit too dark. >Although I like this record, I don't really think it's a good "first >purchase" from this band. I'll put in a third recommendation for RHP, and second this sentiment that the bridge-cover album is *not* the best to start with, as I think it's the bleakest of the four. My favorite is _Ocean Beach_, followed by the rollercoaster one, the debut (_Down Colorful Hill_ - also a bit bleak, but damn near perfect otherwise), and the "Shock Me" EP (yes, that was a Kiss song). -------- Comsat Angels -------- levitation (Need for Not) Blind Mr. Jones (either album) Adorable-Against Perfection And Also The Trees- everything they have ever done. (GOTHAM@aol.com concurs) -------- From: Amal Gupta 3. His Name Is Alive - Music for the Nineties. This band is hard to describe. They use a lot of sampling of weird sounds and effects. They have a female vocalist who sings strange, sometimes dark, lyrics in a sweet voice, and (sometimes) harsh guitars a la Pixies or The Breeders. This description doe not do them justice. You have to check them out! _Mouth By Mouth_ and _Livonia_ are very goo Hope this helps. -Kal -------- From: M.Bosker@civ.utwente.nl I am into : Note: "+" means that they don't exits anymore. Sad Lovers And Giands (UK)+? Because their label Midnight Music is gone.. The Snakecorps(UK)+? Same thing ? The Convent (GER, The Singer is a friend of mine. Their 2 CD's are produced by Mark) The Reegs (UK) The Weaveworld (Ex- The Sun And The Moon)+ Gone24 (CAN)+ The Serenes (NL, Yes, Yes, Yes !!!!) All About Eve (UK, their last CD was great)+ Adrian Borland (Ex-The Sound, I have spoken to him a couple of weeks ago and listen to a new demo, Great Stuff. He will produce the Next album of The Convent) Greetings, Martin -------- > 4) I forgot to mention another favorite: the early work of Simple Minds, > including *New Gold Dream*, is definitely worth hearing. *Sons and > Fascination* is another great one, as is *Sparkle in the Rain* (Don't > be put off by the ghastly awful crap they started to release in the > late eighties. Their early material is splendid.) How true. I was always partial to "Real to Real Cacophony" from their more experimental days. -------- Swirl, _The_Last_Unicorn_: great wall-of-sound, great melodies, lyrics so-so. -------- Afghan Whigs Liz Phair Th' Faith Healers Future Sounds of London (ambient drug weirdness - WAY COOL -------- Gotham@aol.com: Easterhouse - "Contenders" is very, very much like the Chameleons (vocals are even very much like Mark's..DO NOT buy their album "Waiting For The Red Bird") New Model Army - Great brogue from and sometimes very Clash-like Into Paradise - Everything they have done... BTW, I am frantically looking for a copy of their new disk "Down All The Days" on CD Their other disks are "Into Paradise" and "Churchtown" The Church - Of Skins And Heart (the band's debut has a big sound) The Mission U.K. (I second that one wholeheartedly, too. Avoid "Masque." "Children" is their most epic. Vocalist Wayne Hussey gets tedious at times, but the music is stunning) Comsat Angels - their new disk-"My Mind's Eye"- is fantastic Moon Festival - A plug for my old band. We would cite all these bands as influences, especially the Chameleons. 1 CD and one EP, the disk is called "Shrine." CarCrash International - My favorite album released last year. A big sound, very much like And Also The Trees. Titled "Fragments From A Journal In Hell," available on Cleopatra Damned - Strawberries (of course) Echo and the Bunnymen - especially "Reverberation," which was the only disk they recorded without Ian McCollough. It is also my favorite of theirs. Kitchens of Distinction (agreed, again. But I think they try to emulate the Chameleons too much. I like Easterhouse more, because they have they blissful fury the early Chameleons had) Pogues - "Rum, Sodomy and the Lash" Their best. House Of Love - pretty much everything they've done. Abecaderians - mellow, but nice (agreed!) -------- "A Feather on the Breath of God" by Gothic Voices. I think the style is plainchant (ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE THE ST. B. MONKS!) and is very atmospheric. -------- As for other Chameleons-esque bands I suggest you check out the following: Jet Black Factory The Grinning Plowmen Breathless Lowlife The Millions (post For Against) The Rise & Fall of a Decade What? Noise Saqqara Dogs Red Math Springhouse and, perhaps, more obvious, The Sisters of Mercy -------- *** For Against (write: Contact Independent Project Records (IPR) via mail at: Post Box 1033 Sedona, AZ 86339 or via Phone/Fax: 602.204.1332 Ask for Bruce Licher - and tell him you got the address/phone from World Domination) Sad Lovers and Giants -------- >A while ago somebody wanted to know what other list members were listening to. >Here's some of my current faves: Yo La Tengo, Flaming Lips, Dinosaur Jr., Sonic >Youth, Babes in Toyland, L7, Walt Mink. Others will come to mind later. I thought I'd list some of my favorites [aside from the obvious Chameleons UK, Sun and the Moon, SoG, Reegs]: Peter Murphy Xymox Dead Can Dance Cocteau Twins Lush Abecedarians Echo & the Bunnymen Joy Division/New Order Kitchens of Distinction Everything but the Girl the Mission the Smiths -------- Comsat Angels Mission Church Into Paradise Lions & Ghosts Fields of the Nephilim Beck Easterhouse Moon Festival (my former band!!) House of Love -------- Other cool brit pop: The Auters House of Love -very much Levitation CS Angels Catherine Wheel Verve -------- > Levitation Incredible! I didn't know anyone else had heard of these guys. I picked up their "Need for Not" CD a few years ago and was very pleasantly surprised by it. They walk a fine line between metal/progressive, but on balance they're extremely melodic and tuneful. I think they'd be of interest to Chameleons fans because of the intricate guitar work. "Need for Not" is easy to find in the US (well, around here at any rate) and includes several strikingly original tracks--highly recommended. - john caruso -------- I'll second that. They were quite an interesting band; here's a brief history: Terry Bickers, the VERY cool original guitarist from the House of Love, left after that band's first album and formed Levitation in 1990. They had three singles released in 1991--most of their tracks, along with some live numbers, were collected on the _Coppelia_ EP. Some of the songs on that were mighty fine, some not. However, as John noted, next year's _Need For Not_ was an all-around triumph; there's also a CD single for "World Around" from that album with two other fine tracks. In 1993 they released a single called "Even When Your Eyes Are Open" [which I still haven't had a chance to hear] and were on the verge of releasing a new album when Bickers publicly quit the band at a concert! As he was also the lead singer for the band, this was a bit of a problem. That album was never released, and the rest of the band tried to get a new frontman, but dissolved soon after. Ned Raggett naragget@uci.edu -------- What Mark Burgess said some of his musical influences are: I'm influenced to some degree by everything I've ever heard or seen, but if you want musical specifics I'd have to list The Beatles, T.Rex, David Bowie, The Sensational Alex Harvey Band, The Doors, The Fall, The Buzzcocks, The Sex Pistols, Young Marble Giants, ATV, The Raincoats, Kate Bush, John Williams (movie scores) Phillip Glass, Talk Talk, Midnight Oil, the original Alice Cooper band, Sparks and thousands of others I've probably forgotten -------- ned raggett (naragget@uci.edu): The Fall--also hard to classify. Art/punk/rave/avant-garde/shambling/ metal/techno weirdness. Or something. But not really that either. Too many albums to count--start with the singles comps [_Palace of Swords Reversed_ and _458489_]. -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- Drawn to ODD rhythms (culled from ecto): Ever since I was turned on to King Crimson, Gentle Giant, etc. I have been enchanted and fascinated by music written in odd meters (i.e., 5, 7, 11, 13). At first it was definitely the intoxication of extraordinary musicianship ("Wow, how do they DO that?"), but over time my appreciation has become more visceral. These meters FEEL good. I am especially thrilled by performers who can use these rhythms effectively in a pop song context. Some famous examples that come to mind are "Solsbury Hill" by Peter Gabriel (in 7), "Living in the Past" by Jethro Tull (in 5), and "Money" by Pink Floyd (in 7). The song that really blew my doors off, though, was Jane Siberry's "I Muse Aloud," which is in 5. To me, that song is simply *brilliant*, nuff said. Other ecto-related songs in odd meters include: "God" by Tori (in 7, or 3+4, or 6+8, depending on how you count it) "Guppy" by The Moon Seven Times (in 5) "Always" by October Project (in 5) Can anybody out there direct me to similar stuff I may not be aware of? Please don't bother suggesting any of the traditional prog-rock like Genesis, Yes, KC, Gentle Giant, etc. That's old (though beloved) ground for me. ---- I love odd meters as well. Here are some of my favorites: Primus, "Eleven" (11, aptly enough) Nine Inch Nails, "March of the Pigs" (7+7+7+8) Nine Inch Nails, "The Becoming" (13, or 7+6) Sting, "Love Is The Seventh Way" (7) Yanni, "Nostalgia" (fast part has 5 beats of 5-plets) Frank Zappa, you name it Honorable mention goes to The Stone Roses' "Fools Gold". The drum beat is standard 4/4, but it repeats with a cycle of 5 measures throughout the whole song. ======================================================================== Hmmm: Off da toppa ma head: - Almost anything by Metallica before their most recent album. - Doctor Nerve - Early Phillip Glass - Jazz compositions by Don Ellis - Dave Brubeck's "Take Five" and "Blue Rondo Alla Turk". - Ofra Haza "7/8 Thing" (from "Kirya") - Stick People You might also check out traditional Bulgarian music and music from around there. Rather than dividing a measure into equal parts, as we do, they construct patterns of long (3 sub-beats) and short (2 sub-beats) beats. Thus, a song might be based on a 3+2+2+3+2+3 pattern (like DAdadaDAdaDAdaDAdadaDAdaDAdada). One of these days I should put on an H[BG]P tape my "The New Tax Laws and You" -- the drums go in 9, the bass is in 13, and the flute/guitar melody is in eight, though bass, drums, and flute were free to vary their rhythms (the drum, being a machine, wasn't). I also did a big composition (about an hour) named "Shofar", much of which was built around rhythmic patterns like 3-1-3-2-3-1-3-4-3-1-3-2-3-1-3-5, etc. ---- A couple more: - Bela Fleck - Laurie Anderson Indian rhythms have similar structures -- not always 2 and 3, though. I was playing with some classical ones from a book and was a little disappointed to find ones for every total beat count from 6 to 24 or so... except for poor 13. From: cinnamon@iglou.com (Roger N. Dominick) Subject: MediaPlay (at least in Cinti) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 23:22:48 -0500 (EST) There's a new store in town -- MediaPlay. They have software, books, music, trading cards, and a miscellany of other stuff. On going there, I was mainly interested in software, but Carol called me over to the music section. Not only did they have a seperate section for Happy Rhodes, in the correct section, but they stocked -- and this was their second day in the "soft" opening -- *every* album, from Rhodes I to Building the Colossus. (One copy each.) I say "stocked" because Carol bought BtC (and she's been playing _If I Ever See the Girl Again_ so much that it's stuck in MY head), and I got "Ecto" and "Warpaint". I was very happy to see all these albums there and told them so. So far, they are the ONLY place in Cinti to stock them -- Wizard still does not although they have a stable contact for ordering more. Oh, and did I mention they were all $11? My offer of before still stands: if anyone is having difficulty laying hands on these albums, I will acquire copies at local stores here (MediaPlay quotes a one-week wait for special-order CDs), I'll be more'n happy to act as a middleman for just the cost of the CD and $3 shipping.