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Christ On Campus

Christian Keesee | Toon Manager
Published 02-17-06




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Posted by KRitz

It's back and it's annoying, discriminatory and foolish as ever. Way to go Kristian, you managed once again to tick off the Christian community. Congrats.
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Posted by Slippery pete

Perhaps the Kristian community should be ticked off at televangelists, take Creflo Dollar. If he were trying to hide the fact the he recieves rediculous amounts of money the first thing he should do is change his last name.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

KRitz is back and he's annoying, discriminatory and foolish as ever. Way to go zealot, you managed once again to tick off make an ass out of Christians. Congrats.
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Posted by Andrew Lent

His name is Christian. Funny how you try to condemn someone for being "discriminatory and foolish" while you are purposefully mispelling his name. Grow up.
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Posted by John

Explain how this comic is offensive? Because I'm not seeing how it would be?
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Posted by david

hahahahahahahaha oh man i loved this one... the justin dillion part was the best but maybe cause i know him? i dunno its a cleaver comic i like it alot man good job!
...to be like Christ.
Posted by Patty

I AM a devoted Christian. I go to church every week. I read the bible daily and try to live my life the way Christ would. I play in a spiritually positive industrial metal band and om considering going to seminary to become a youth minister. And I LOVE Christ On Campus. If you are offended its only because your looking for something to be offended by. You may as well be offended by a Cheeto because Christian is merely making a spiritual point here. That is that calling yourself "Christian" isn’t enough. The word "Christian" mean to "be like Christ." Do you believe the televangelist is trying to "be like Christ" or just using people for financial gain? And I ask you, as a Christian a) What about this comic is discriminatory? b) Is it Christ-like to name call? c) is this comic just so "foolish" that it is also "genius"? Do yourself a favor. Stop talking for us. I’m more offended that you do that then I am offended by this comic.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Wow...how many times can we have the same tired argument. Let me save you the time it would take to read the rest of these comments...it just goes on like this FOREVER....

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Posted by THE Blake

"If you are offended its only because your looking for something to be offended by."
You weren't offended by seeing your Lord depicted in having a sexual act with a woman last week? - an action that we both know he neither did nor would have done.

I'm not leading the opposition just because I need something to do - there are plenty of things for me to do than to raise a cause against a series that wasn't offensive.

Now, that being said, I think the message this week actually does have some weight compared to the others, which could be viewed as to having an offensive nature. There are some people like this however, there are also some people who ask for money because their reachout is so big that they need a monumental sum of cash to get the word of the Lord out. So don't assume thatevery televangelist is out for the Benjamins.

What I will say is that this series has gotten to the point of what I would call "Bush polarization" - you either like it or you don't and when something new comes out, like how most people treat every action of our current President, the automatic reaction is to oppose it. In my opinion, the occurences in regards to this cartoon (for the most part) are well-founded because I see it as offensive. However, there is no need to call "Christian" by the name of "Kristian" because ad hominem merely makes the user look bad.

Contact Info:
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

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Posted by Wilhelm Fink

I'm really not understanding the whole myspace blog thing. Most people use it as a means to contact "friends" and such and yet you choose to present it as your "contact info"
Once again I would like to point out the link you make between Bush and religion. If you blink, pop your bubble, and step out into the world, there are other things.
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Posted by John

the am not...are toos are perhaps more annoying than someone who is posting an opinion good or bad about this piece. so stop.
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Posted by THE Blake

John has a point.
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Posted by ClassicalLib

Did anyone notice that the televangelist dude in this cartoon looks a ton like Alan Colmes with a tan??? Maybe that's just me
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Posted by Classical Lib

Have a great day ^^.
HAHA JUSTIN IS A GIRL!!!
Posted by daine

i always knew there was a reason i was attracted to him.
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Posted by grace face

oh man this is so true! i hate those tv people!
hahahahaha
Posted by Rick Snee

I know where a copy of that picture of Justin needs to go.
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Posted by kristen

this one is awesome.... those televangelists are horrible! i dont see how people can really think they are serious. anyway... oh yea, nice picture of justin... looks just like him!
Another Great Cartoon Christian
Posted by Captain_Typho

You weren't offended by seeing your Lord depicted in having a sexual act with a woman last week? - an action that we both know he neither did nor would have done.

See, to me as a Christian, that is part of why I find this humorous. The situations are so absurd and ridiculous (like Jesus in bed with a woman) that I don't take it seriously. It's a cartoon not meant to be taken seriously.

Christian, another fantastic cartoon this week! Is it just me or does that dude look like Bob Barker?

Folks, we need your support ...
Posted by Rick Snee

If you each send Ken Ritz $20, maybe Jesus can show him how to calm down and not speak for all Christians. Add $10 to your donation, and The Almighty may even grant him a sense of humor.

Really, how is attacking charlatans like televangelists discriminatory?
context clues, dammit!
Posted by jenny

You weren't offended by seeing your Lord depicted in having a sexual act with a woman last week? - an action that we both know he neither did nor would have done.

Okay seriously, If you actually read the comic...He couldn't have been having sex if he had no penis.
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Posted by Peter

Rick, I was honestly going to try and come up with something good to say, but sometimes name-calling does it. You're a jerk, man.
Thanks, Peter!
Posted by Rick Snee

Yes I am a jerk, and no, I doubt you actually had something to say.
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Posted by Peter G

Thats my momma!
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Posted by jessito

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Posted by jessito

the drawings lovely...... yeah christian stop been anoying, discriminatory and foolish as ever..although theres not many religious people over here i think they all died of the foot and mouth or something... haha RING ME GOD DAMN YOU... love you bitch x x x x x x x x
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Posted by Ray

How is this all offesive? People like Benny Hill, Pat Robertson, and Jerry Falwell are giving the rest of us bad names. Now, when people think of Christians, they generalize everyone under the image of those 3 and others like them. Using Christ as a tax shelter should not only be illegal, but I dare say they are going to Hell for their greed. It is bullshit and these people are ruining our country just as much as the socialists. Whether you are on the left or the right, I think everyone can agree such extremes are dangerous.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Benny HINN, Ray...HINN...Benny Hill is someone a little different. LMAO....idiot.
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Posted by Ray

Oops, my bad. I was watching BBC earlier. Sorry about that.
It is, actually.
Posted by Patrick

"Using Christ as a tax shelter should not only be illegal, but I dare say they are going to Hell for their greed."

Ask Jim Bakker if it's illegal.

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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

It is bullshit and these people are ruining our country just as much as the socialists.

What does one have to do with the other? That's rhetorical, by the way. I'm tired of everything degenerating to the evils of socialism whenever you pop up here.
Oh, yeah ...
Posted by Rick Snee

That was me in case anyone wonders.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

I've always wondered about where the socialists were in POWER in this country to ruin it . . .
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Posted by THE Blake

Did anybody think that since Falwell and Robertson's outreach is so large that it costs a large sum of money to run? Personally, I say if you have the ability to reach a large group of people and save them from certain doom, then it is your responsiblity to do so. These guys are doing just that.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Did anybody think that since Falwell and Robertson's outreach is so large that it costs a large sum of money to run? Personally, I say if you have the ability to reach a large group of people and save them from certain doom, then it is your responsiblity to do so. These guys are doing just that.

I think that's the same argument that bin Laden uses.

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Posted by Ray

Rick, I dont want it to go in that direction either. I was only saying that on the far left are socialist, on the far right are facist. That is the similarity there. And for the record, last week's discussion was the most civil and well spoken one I had ever seen on here.

And Blake, there is a difference from raising money to be able to reach all these people and becoming rich off of Jesus. The lifestyles they lead are not what you would think of when you imagine someone who is supposed to be humble. What's the saying? It's easier to get a camel through the head of a needle than to get a rich man into heaven. Also, ever read Canterbury Tales? This is nothing new.

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Posted by THE Blake

"I think that's the same argument that bin Laden uses.
Riiiiiight...
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Posted by ClassicalLib

Ray, you're a smart guy but, in political theory the far right tend toward racism and classism. The far left tend toward facism, take the Nazis for example. The striking of religious texts and the like, these are facist methods. The same goes for facio-communist regimes. They are considered to be on the far left because of the innate hatred of religion, which their "god", Karl Marx, called "the opiate of the masses". Ray, you the man, keep up the good work ^^.
Have a great day everyone! ! !
See?
Posted by Rick Snee

This is exactly what I knew would happen. All the political hacks in the school are gonna start talking about socialism and facism.

Thanks.
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Posted by John

Wow, last time i checked this wasnt even a cartoon about facisim or nazis or whatever random ass things you people have started talking about.
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Posted by Ray

First, to borrow a line from those who attack Blake, if you don't want to see it, skip over it and don't read it. Second, this is totally on topic. The point is the far right is just as dangerous as the far left, and that is what is being depicted here. Even Jesus can't relate to these people. But because Rick is truly close-minded to those who are outside his own little world, he doesnt see that I wasn't attacking socialist and never meant for the argument to be about them. To SAWR and others, if you are going to comment, at least read everything before you begin to write your post.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Blake, you respond sarcastically because you don't really have an substance, beyond your own faith, to refute any of this. Look at what you said in your own post about Falwell:

I say if you have the ability to reach a large group of people and save them from certain doom, then it is your responsiblity to do so.

What is the difference between bin Laden and his Islamic Jihad vs. Falwell and Roberstson's institutionalized televangelism? The very obvious one is the violence, but you can't just simply say, "Oh, they're violent, so they are totally different." The means are different, but they both have a similar end.

Islam divides the world into two parts: The Land of Islam and the Land of War. The ultimate end in the Land of War is to convert it to the Land of Islam. Christianity seeks the same ends; they want to convert the world to Christianity.

Part of bin Laden's terrorist campaign is to bring down a decadent, godless West. Other Islamic fundamentalists have the same goal. They use terrorism and all the finances from their business fronts to spread their message to wherever they can to save us from certain doom.

Fundamentalists Christians and Fundamentalists Muslims aren't all that different from each other.

Explain this to me, like I'm six years old.
Posted by Rick Snee

I'm too close-minded? You can't go 5 minutes without bringing up socialism, even in your last article's discussion when it had nothing to do with it. Every discussion you get into always concerns socialists somehow. How is me pointing that out close-minded?

Communism's bad, mmkay? We get it. Thanks for bringing it up yet again as if we forgot 1917-1990.

I wait for the political science department to comment in mass, but hopefully we can not go down this road for once.
To Rick
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

No one is bring up socialism except for you. Ray was discussing facist and saying the whether you are on the right or left, if you are on the far ends of either they are bad. This toon deals with those who are on the far right, entirely opposite from socialist. Let it go. What he was saying in his last post is that you cant see past the author and the word socialism. That is all you care to see, so you are going to make it an issue. So I am stopping it right now. It's done. Move on.
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Posted by Ray

I have to agree with SAWR only to the extent that both Christianity and Islam try to convert people into what they believe. However, that is where the similarities end. Nowadways no one will force you to be a Christian. We don't impose a tax if you are Jewish or Muslim. We don't believe that "conversion by the sword" accomplishes anything except for create a perpetual state of war. We realize that spirituality is a choice, and while I would like to see everyone be Christian (because even in the end if I am wrong and there is no God and Jesus was some kook, at least the followers have tried to live a good life) I am not going to declare a holy war to convert you.
Now compare this to the teachings of an illiterate man with multiple wives as young as 9. A man who when he was kicked out of a city, came back not to show how they were wrong, but to destroy it as militant.
So while saying "one is violent and one is not" may not be as complete of an answer to you, that is where the key difference lies. That and the fact no one will cut off your head for your beliefs, bury you up to your neck and throw stones at your head, or cut off your hand for stealing.

Rick, is that ok? Are we now allowed to discuss Islam? It has nothing to do with the cartoon, so are you going to get your panties in a bunch over it? Things happen to lead to new discussions. Get off your high horse. And thanks to ClassicLib and SAWR for having some sense.


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Posted by Ray

By the way, did anyone else notice the A/V cables are in the wrong order on the back of the cable box? Usually red and white are together. And where is the other cable connecting the box to the TV? For shame Christian. Haha, just kidding.
::shaking head::
Posted by Rick Snee

Here we go again. Sure, cover the same off-topic stuff again. It only entered the conversation because you brought it up, and it was only mildly interesting the first hundred times.

Couldn't you all call a meeting or something if it's really that necessary?
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Posted by Luke Rogers

A few things have been taken out of context here. Marx for instance did not mean "opiate of the masses" with the intention of it being taken negatively. He was merely desribing religion's ability to subdue massive amounts of people, and its success as a social control. Most will agree, social control is necessary for a functional society. Ray's point about extremes is well taken, but I think he's referring more to the close mindedness of particular extremists rather than radical views. One can have radical views and an open mind (which is not necessarily dangerous) whereas a closed mind and similar views is a dangerous mix. I disagree with the anti-socialist remarks, since I do not see all of the "evils" of socialist ideals, unless equality is bad. Many countries have succeeded in mixing democracy and socialism (germany, france, sweden, canada), and although not perfect systems, they have enjoyed many benifits from such political philosophy. NO the totalitarian dictators that labelled themselves "communist" were not actually communists. The world has never seen true communism since it is utopian, and hard to see actually working in the real world. Despite this, marxian theory is very strong today in many schools of thought and still maintains legitimacy in academia.
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Posted by Christian

hahaha Ray you bastard you're not supposed to point out flaws like that, i have many of them!
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Posted by Quorthon

Great cartoon.

I'd like to see a "Muhammad on Campus" sometime.
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Posted by THE Blake

"I'd like to see a "Muhammad on Campus" sometime."
If it's content is just the same as the CoC series, I would be opposed to the Mohammed cartoon as well.
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Posted by Ray

No because then we would have riots on campus because some people aren't as accepting as others. Funny how when they got all pissed off it was not about the fact he was wearing a bomb for a turbine (perhaps that part was true?) but the fact that his image was portrayed. The way I understand it is because it creates an idol out of him, which is a sin. But if that is the case, then why is Mohammed a popular name among them? Isn't that creating an idol out of his name?
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

What's wrong with this week's content, Blake? Seems "toned down" to me.

Or are you just of the natural desposition to be forever offended?

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Posted by THE Blake

It clearly attacks good men like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and Jerry Falwell because of the apparent belief that they do not serve the Lord but serve money, completely ignoring the fact that their outreach is so large that it costs a large sum of money to run. That's what's wrong with this one (however, by comparison to last week's this one pales in comparison to the level of offensiveness).

Don't get me wrong, Christian is an amazing artist. Our problem is not with him, nor Whim, nor Andrew Lent, nor anybody else who enjoys this series. Our problem is with the content of this series, which we feel is of an offensive nature and demeans Christianity and its leaders as well as that of Christ.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Wow . . . you never cease to amaze me, Blake. First, you were gravely offended because of the nature of the toons that depicted Jesus. NOW you're offended because it is making commentary about televanglists? I mean, before it seemed that you were standing up for your faith, now you are just throwing everything around.

Great men? Hah . . . have you heard some of the crap that has come out of their mouths?

We have imagined ourselves invulnerable and have been consumed by the pursuit of ... health, wealth, material pleasures and sexuality... It [terrorism] is happening because God Almighty is lifting his protection from us. -- Pat Robertson

When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. "What do you mean?" the media challenged me. "You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?" My simple answer is, "Yes, they are." --Pat Robertson

You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them. --Pat Robertson

It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation. -- Pat Robertson

The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. -- Pat Robertson

I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period. -- Pat Robertson

Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals -- the two things seem to go together. -- Pat Robertson

I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you. (in reference to the Gay Pride Festival) -- Pat Robertson

I think "one man, one vote," just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights. -- Pat Robertson

To see Americans become followers of Islam is nothing short of insanity.... The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves. Why would the people in America want to embrace the religion of slavers. -- Pat Robertson

Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history. -- Pat Robertson

Yeah, Robertson is a GREAT man. I wish I had more time to present a few more quotes. I haven't even touched Falwell yet.

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Posted by THE Blake

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history. -- Pat Robertson"
With the exception of his final sentence, Robertson is absolutely correct. I've said it myself-the media, education system, Hollywood and corrupt left-minded politicians are working their anti-Christian agenda so that I'd wager sometime within the next 20-40 years Christians could very well face their own gas chambers as predicted in parts of the Bible.
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Posted by THE Blake

"It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation. -- Pat Robertson"
Completely true. However, Robertson needs to realize in regards to his fumigation comment that things will only get worse as we approach the End Times. More and more of our Christian-made institutions will be attacked and removed, I guarantee you that. Heck, already the right to life and the sanctity of marriage have been almost fully abolished.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Yeah, Blake, we're going to gas Christians . . . I can't believe you went there . . .

Oh and I whole-heartedly expected to see you agree with Robertson. From the posts I've seen you make, I've already acknowledged the fact that you are a fanatical nut. I could almost sympatheize with you when it was a question of religion and Jesus, but now that you've delved into the "I'm offended because you've criticized my institution" I think you're just off the deep end.

I like how you've selectively responded to two of the quotes, saying you agree with them. What about the other quotes? Or do you just feel it isn't right to say negative things about homosexuals, Hindus and Muslims? If Pat Robertson is soooooo great, don't you back everything he says?

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Posted by Semper Fi

Wait . . . aren't Christians and conservatives the majority in America? I mean, that's what I seem to be hearing every time I turn around. How can the majority be systemically oppressed and on the verge of being wiped out?
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Now that I have time, let's not forget Jerry Falwell:

If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being. -- Rev. Jerry Falwell

God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve. -- Rev. Jerry Falwell (blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001)

I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist, [but America's] secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture ... the result is not good. -- Rev. Jerry Falwell

AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals. -- Jerry Falwell

It appears that America's anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men's movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakening. -- Jerry Falwell

We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism ... we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today ... our battle is with Satan himself. -- Rev. Jerry Falwell

The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews. -- Rev. Jerry Falwell

Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan in America. --Rev. Jerry Falwell

Well, with that last quote it looks like we have a conflict of interest here. Who do you defend, now, Blake?

Either way, YES GIVE THEM MONEY SO THEY CAN SPREAD THEIR MESSAGES OF HATE AND RACISM AND OPPRESSION AND DISCRIMINATION! MY THEY ARE GOD-FARRING!

If this is what it means to serve your God, Blake, then I want nothing to do with it. If I have to listen to these religious blowholes, then f*ck it all.

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Posted by Anonymous

PROPHETS EQUAL PROFITS
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Posted by THE Blake

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being. -- Rev. Jerry Falwell"
I would agree solely from the position of a Christian. The meaning of life on this earth is to find Christ and accept Him as your Lord and Savior. I realize that the comment Falwell made but consider what he supports and what he said makes perfect sense - without Christ there is no afterlife (again, Christian perspective).
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Again, a selective response that ignores all the hatred, racism, oppression and discrimination.
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Posted by John

A failure as a human being?
Wow, thats a great way to turn people to christianity, lets insult them and make them feel like a waste of life.
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Posted by Ray

How about y'all stop attacking Blake personally? If you dont agree with Falwell or Robertson, then say why you dont, but dont use what they say as part of your personal vendetta against Blake.

Besides, I think there are a lot of other people, myself included, who really believe with a lot of what these men say. Personally, I think Flawell is way way too conservative and rarely ever listen to what he has to offer. But from those quotes listed by Pat, I don't see anything that is untrue, except possibly the slavery thing, I dont know where that came from and he seems to be misguided about the role of slavery throughout history (ie the Romans). But I and others truly believe that Christians are being persecuted by groups like the ACLU, the media (save Fox News and talk radio), and the atheist.

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Posted by THE Blake

In the end, it just boils down to perspective. This cartoon and most of the posters here have been willing to attack good men like Falwell and Robertson for their personal opinions but in the end, everyone thinks of Billy Graham, Falwell, Robertson, etc as reverends with opinions. However, everyone posting here seems to pass the buck over the "Reverends" Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and while I will give Jessie PROPS for trying to save Terri Schiavo from her murderous husband, those two are rarely ever remembered for their political views. Now, that being said - what I just said does not back the purpose of this cartoon's content because of the difference between the apparent desire for money and political corruption.

However, Ray does have a point. To us, Robertson and Falwell's quotes below are, for the most part, agreeable. Since you all sit on the other side of the political spectrum, you see them as radicals.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Haha, isn't that excellent. You bring up Falwell and Robertson, so someone finds quotes about them and you deflect the negative by bringing up Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton? Dude, they're both freaking whackos too.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews." -- Rev. Jerry Falwell Hey, I forgot - it's time to renew my ACLU membership. Thanks for the reminder!
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Posted by Jessie Jackson

I knew it would only be a matter of time before I got brought up. Thanks for using my name and be sure to vote for me or Al in 2008!
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Posted by Luke Rogers

Everything is perspective. Christians think they are oppressed and nonchristians think they are oppressed. So which is it? Our president is "born again", so I don't think the Nazi parallel is accurate... unless Hitler was a practicing jew. All of these comments (on seemingly every topic) do ultimately lead to discussion of the nazi party, it's getting old.
Right you are, Luke.
Posted by Rick Snee

Throw in some Civil War references and we've got ourselves the History Channel.
Did You Bring Up Terri Schiavo ?!!
Posted by Wilhelm Fink

Please tell me "THE Blake" did not just make a reference to Terri Schiavo! If I was ever a vegetable for years and years, I would want to have the plug pulled. If and even if she would have been able to come back, how would her quality of life have been? I would think THE Blake of all people would have seen that she would be happier with the lord than rotting in a hospital bed surrounded by cameras and controversy. This has nothing to do with the comic but that just shocked me. "muderous husband", whatever man.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

You arent really Jesse Jackson because you dont rhyme when you speak. Plus you are probably somewhat intelligent.
RE: Wilhelm
Posted by THE Blake

Yes, I did make a reference to Terri Schiavo. And yes, she deserved to live. I'd rather not go off on a tangent regarding this week's cartoon but I felt like including it because that was one of the few occurences I was willing to give Jessie major PROPS for.
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Posted by Wilhelm Fink

Please don't use "PROPS" anymore it's almost as dumb as "THE Blake". As for the whole Terry thing I'll leave it alone because it's like talking to wall.
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Posted by THE Blake

Ok, since you've baited me with the newest comment - what do you have to say about the Schiavo case?
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Posted by Wilhelm Fink

Well I'm not much of a fisherman so I do not bait, I just say things. And I thought I stated my opinion already. But I just think that if one were to look at it from a religious point of view the good lord would want to bring his child home as opposed to leave her in the world with so much drama. If she had woken up,the world would have changed, her husband was with another woman, she was seen on tv in her state, and would probably not have the best life. If someone had the option to be back alive or to spend everlasting life with god which one would they choose? Spend life in hell on earth, or in heaven? Hmm tuff call. Am I making sense?
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Posted by Ray

Fink, even though you came off as condescending, I think you make a valid point. Those who defended her alway said it wasn't right for us to play God, however wasnt that what we were doing by keeping her on life support? It is a fine line between medicine and playing God, because afterall, some of what would have killed us 50 years ago is no longer a big deal today. Bottom line is we will never know what she said to her husband. It was her family who told him to move on with his life. How could anyone want to live in a state with a virtually non-existant chance of waking up.

Even though no one ha mentioned it, it will be brought up, so here is how I view the video of her with a balloon. The video was hours long and there were multiple ones of her being taken. If you listen to the radio and have your blinker on, eventually they will be in since with each other. This doesnt mean that because the balloon moved across her face she was following it; it just meant that by chance she happened to be moving her head as a balloon was passin in front of her. That is hardly a basis for keeping someone artificially alive for years with no hope of them returning. Even if she had come back, she would have been so mentally challenged, what would be the point of living

No one wants to see their children die and I respect the family for wishing to hold onto her. But the right decision was to let her go. Now if you want to get into how they let her die, this is another debate. Yes, starving her would be more inhumane, but euthanizing her would have created yet another uproar so it was the only politically sound decision to be made. Sorry for jumping in on y'alls debate, just thought I had something to contribute.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Sorry for the mad typos, its 330am. The line was supposed to be "in synch" not "in since".
I guess this would be irrevrent humor?
Posted by Matt Dooley

I understand people's dislike of 'money-hungry Christians'. I do wonder, though. Obviously you don't believe God should be approached humbly and reverently, filled with a sense of awe at His power. So what topic would you consider important enough to rule out cheap shots? Christian, is there something you care about deeply enough that you wouldn't joke about it?
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Check out Channel 7 news tonight at 6 and/or 11 Some interesting info may be coming your way
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Posted by Andrew Lent

I don't know why the poster had to be "anonymous". News Channel 7, the local CBS affiliate (channel 3) interviewed several people today--Brian Erskine, Blake Fought, Ashleigh Cadieux, Christian Keesee and myself--and the interview should be on at the earliest 5 p.m. but more likely 6 p.m. or 11 p.m. (or both).

You should check it out.

Truth.
Posted by Phil Hunnicutt

I have yet to see a CoC that DIDN'T contain some element of truth in it. Christian's fundamental criticisms of The Church as a whole are fairly right on. You guys can gripe and moan all you want about how it's "disrespectful" or "slighting" towards God... But if Christian IS indeed saved, then he's a part of The Church and has every right to criticize it and it's work... And if he's NOT saved, then he's giving you a point blank look into his experiences as to why, and therefore has every right to criticize. If we are to believe that justice ultimately and truly lies with The Lord, the the cartoon inherantly of little significance, unless there is truth to it. You are doing yourselves, The Church, and non-believers a huge diservice by making such a huge deal over something such as this. And if there IS truth to it, you are doing yourselves a huge diservice by trying to get it shut down instead of using it as a tool to better yourselves, your church, your God, and the world. Either way, whining about a cartoon isn't something that I think Christ or God would want us to devote our efforts to.
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Posted by THE Blake

The anonymous poster was not me. I have been away from internet access except to inform the Facebook group and a handful of other people who have expressed interest in this series. The thought never occured to me to annouce it here, don't ask me why.
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Posted by Peter Sine

Why is everybody so afraid to use their name instead of staying anonymous. I don't even read your posts because you don't back them up.
true
Posted by dan borrelli

maybe you could argue against this cartoon if it wasnt true. back in the 70's falwell used to make over a million dollars a week from his televangalism, now that money goes to great charities like movie theaters that censor brad pitts butt, give me a break.
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Posted by Ken Ritz

Care to cite that source for "a million dollars a week?"
WDBJ7 whamps.
Posted by Brice

Notice how they depicted Brian and Blake as random students that they just happened to interview... not caring that they were the ones who complain about everything to begin with.
I like it when it's off topic
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Isn't it funny how they will kill Tery Schiavo but not a California man who was a convicted rapist, torturer, murderer?
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Posted by Wilhelm Fink

Did anyone see how stupid Blake looked on TV?! I laughed so hard.
Brilliant!
Posted by Russell Simpson

I think it's great that these inspirational and true-to-life toons are getting so much press! Remember, JE$U$ $AVE$!
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Posted by THE Blake

Eh, I thought they were going to use the other cut of me walking on there but oh well. Our message got across.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

How is this offensive?!

It's attacking people who make money off of Christian charity! You people are idiots!

Hilarious
Posted by JeffersonianDemocracy

Christian, who, without doubt, is unable to read the flood of messages coming from both advocates and evangelical meatheads alike, has managed to insight debate about the culture war. Christians are getting upset because their religious is being lost to intellectual deduction and I, for one, couldn't be happier. Religion has caused has directly caused decapitations, wars, bizarre and biased laws, corruption and graft as easily as martha stewart pops a new cake in the oven. But never fear, education is here!
Intellect Prevails!
Posted by jeffersoniandemocracy

Christian, who, without doubt, is unable to read the flood of messages coming from both advocates and evangelical meatheads alike, has managed to insight debate about the culture war. Christians are getting upset because their religious is being lost to intellectual deduction and I, for one, couldn't be happier. Religion has caused has directly caused decapitations, wars, bizarre and biased laws, corruption and graft as easily as martha stewart pops a new cake in the oven. But never fear, education is here!
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

If your offended by this then your just trying to bitch about something
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