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Christ On Campus

Christian Keesee | Toon Manager
Published 04-07-06




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Posted by Vince

Another messed up toon, CK. I'm praying for you, my friend. May the Lord open your eyes and let you see how you mock Him and those defending Him and hopefully you will terminate this endeavor as a result. Brother in Christ, Vince.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

God has a sense of Humor
Posted by JSC

Everyone take a look around your immediate area, the world, whatever, you will see that God does have a sense of humor. The Giraffe and the Simpson's are proof of God's sense of humor and that we were given the free will to also have a sense of humor.
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Posted by Ray

Christian, you know usually I'm a fan of your work. This week wasn't as good. Sorry, man. The dudes checking out that chick's ass is pretty funny, especially the white guy biting his lip. But seriously, what ever happens at Radford that we would have that big of a crowd behind her?
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Posted by Vinsanity

Ray, this whole toon is poking fun at the forum thing and how CRS has been trying to make sure that the right image of Jesus is displayed.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Haha, I'm glad someone else noticed that about Blake (it's not about values and principles, it's about the image).
Oh man!
Posted by Rick Snee

This isn't just a Jesus joke; this is about the school's image facelift! Hilarious!
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Kudos from a new fan of Christ on Campus!
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"Boo" from an old opponent of Christ on Campus!
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Is is just me or has the quality of the artistry in this series gone downhill recently (ignoring the April Fool's one)? The first panel or whatever the hell it's called is atrocious. Bleeh.
hmmm
Posted by Cory St.Clair

Where can I get a copy of CK's toon where jesus is asking for seperate checks at the last supper? I think that is hilarious!
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Posted by Pissed off at Sunday Christians

You should do a cartoon about how cheap Christians are on Sundays. I work at a restaurant and the people that come to eat after church on Sundays are the meanest, most demanding, worst customers one could ever wait on! I guess they feel because they just finished their weekly repention of sins they can act like complete assholes. Ohhh and since they just gave all their money in the offering plate, they have no money to tip. So they tell me what a wonderful server I am and leave me an 8% tip and a little piece of paper that says "Jesus loves you" and quotes scripture. Fuck that noise... I can't go to my realtor and be like "look I am a little short on rent this month, but hey the Sunday Christians said that I am a wonderful server, thats got to count for something right?"
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Posted by Blake

I always try to tip around 10-15 on Sundays so don't assume all Christians tip poorly.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

10-15 isn't tipping well
Something you Christians might not have realized...
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Clickie Da Linky
Dear Pissed off:
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Just be glad that they aren't leaving Chick Tracts...
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Posted by Blake

10-15 as in 10-15%. I never talk about tips in straight dollars (unless it's the actual value itself), it's all percentages.
Tipping
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Blake, 10-15% isn't tipping well, 15% is considered the 'minimum'. A GOOD tip is at least 20%. After spending less than a week waiting tables and knowing the hell servers go through, I tip at least 20% unless the server is terrible. Hell I tip $1 per beer. To pissed off at Sunday Christians: Agreed. It does seem that people are a little tighter on Sundays between 12-3pm.
Chex!!!
Posted by brian

Why should the sunday christians go out when they can stay home and have Christ Chex? btw, 10-15% is shitty. If I spend less than 5, i tip 50%, and my normal tip is 20-25% 10%... someone needs to kick you in the nuts
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Posted by Blake

10-15% from a college student isn't too bad. From an adult with a well-paying job, yeah it would be pretty crappy but from a college student who doesn't really have alot of cash compared to the average adult? Please, that's pretty good (of course, I also weigh in performance and quickness in as well) pay.
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Posted by Ray

I used to be a delivery boy. 15-20% is for waitresses, 10% minimum for delivery (more if bad weather) and buffet, but never lower than $2 no matter how cheap the bill
You zany knuckleheads ...
Posted by Rick Snee

You'll find anything to fight/wax intellectual about. Tipping? Oo. There's a relevent battle.

I'm guessing this was all because you had nothing to say about this week's comic, but needed something to go off on.
Blake...
Posted by Patrick

"10-15% from a college student isn't too bad. From an adult with a well-paying job, yeah it would be pretty crappy but from a college student who doesn't really have alot of cash compared to the average adult? Please, that's pretty good (of course, I also weigh in performance and quickness in as well) pay."

If you don't have the cash to tip, you can always get food from the vending machine.

(A discussion of the merits of tipping and the fact that restaurants pay shit might do better as a Vent article than random comments attached to a toon with no bearing on tipping.)

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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

If you don't have the money to tip 15%+... here is an idea: DONT GO OUT TO EAT!!! Servers make $2.13 an hour, and never even see a paycheck because that money gets taken out in taxes. So the only money they are getting paid is from tips. Think about that next time you go out to eat.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"I always try to tip around 10-15 on Sundays so don't assume all Christians tip poorly." Blake, that is a shitty tip my friend! Educate your ignorant ass on the art of giving and generosity.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

I don't usually tip hardly anything because waiters are my bitches, in some sense, while i am eating there i own them. tips. go suck one.
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Posted by K Ritz

I believe the real issue here is not who is tipping and how much they are tipping, but how much I am in love with Mr. Fought. Of course he would be a good tipper, he's good at a lot of things. Oh and Blakey poo, Saturday night was soo magical! Thank you baby i love you.
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Posted by KRitz

Almost got it right - there is no space between K and Ritz in my posting name. Also, what part of Christianity and not supporting homosexuality do you not get? I'm not gay but I suppose you are, aren't you, gayballs?
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

ever see the movie "Waiting" thats what happens to the food of assholes and dicks that can't tip... keep that in mind next time
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"I'm not gay but I suppose you are, aren't you, gayballs?" Now that comment wasn't very Christian like! Would Jesus go around calling people gayballs?
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"(A discussion of the merits of tipping and the fact that restaurants pay shit might do better as a Vent article than random comments attached to a toon with no bearing on tipping.)"

It's already been done! By Zoe---Season 16, I think. (Can't make the Archives work at all...)

Tipping
Posted by Mark

You all want to take glory for the tips your leave? Ever get money from your parents? That's what I thought....Until you are completely cut off from your parents (and that includes tuition, books, rent, bills, etc.) you are NOT allowed to self glorify. This is the attitude that is getting our generation in trouble: "Status spending" --- Yes, that includes showing big tips. Don't say I didn't warn you in five years when you're debt is out of control and you have your finger on the last digit of your parents phone number.

Peaople think the tip is supposed to increase with inflation or the cost of living? WRONG...15% of the bill is a good tip. As the cost of dining raises, the tips go up. I never tip less than 15%, even for bad service. I sometimes tip more, but only when a good job is noticeable. If you are at a restaurant that has servers, the bill is gonna be a MINIMUM of $30 so the tip is $4.50. If he/she serves 4 tables in an hour then he/she is making $18.00 an hour PLUS the low wages. So shut up. Even if they declare it all (which most don't) that's still a great wage for a kid.

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Posted by KRitz

""I'm not gay but I suppose you are, aren't you, gayballs?" Now that comment wasn't very Christian like! Would Jesus go around calling people gayballs?" - I was referring to a poster who was around late last semester and early this semester (who ended up disappearing after a while) who posted under the name of "gayballs", not dishing out a derogatory word.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

If your debt is so out of control that you justify low tipping by the amount of tables they get an hour... maybe you shouldn't be eating at a restaurant? And most bills at restuarants I go to, even with one friend, maybe two, don't add up to $30. But tipping really IS irrelevant, since it has nothing to do with the toon.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Maybe you shouldn't be bitching about how much your getting paid and find another job if you are so unhappy.
Tipping.
Posted by Mark

Yes it's irrelevant to the toon...oh well.

Do you eat alone much? Just because you get separate checks doesn't mean you still aren't one table. If three of you eat at one table and each spend $8.50, that's pretty close. Plus, 4 tables in an hour is a low guess. I've had plenty of friends get off work gloating about the killing they made waiting tables on a friday night. I know a friday night isn't the norm, but when you average it out over the week they make plenty of money. 15% is a good tip. Don't contribute to the idea that 15% givers are cheapskates. And no, I don't use my debt to justify low tipping. I don't have debt, and my tips aren't "low"---15% is NOT "low". When the waitress makes more money than I do at my non-tipping job, I take control of MY OWN MONEY. Society has set this sort of "scoffing" at those who are not being free-wheelin' with their money. I don't make $18 an hour, and my job is no walk in the park. I am happy to tip 15%. Now you want to make me feel bad for giving it? You are a victim, my friend of pop-culture tipping!

(Sorry for continuing the off topic)

Ignorance is Bliss
Posted by Handsome Rogue

Mark, All of your comments are completely ignorant. What about me? I am a student that is completely self sufficient. I have been solely supporting myself for the last 6 years. I am also a server that has to depend on other's generosity to support myself. As for saying that $18 is a great wage for a kid... what about single mothers trying to support a family? What about college students struggling to put themselves through college? Also $18 is by far not the norm. I work in one of the most expensive restaurants in the New River Valley, and I rarely make $18 an hour, even on the weekends. You also forgot to mention that some nights you can go into work and not even average minimum wage. Guess you never had to work in a restaurant eh? "When the waitress makes more money than I do at my non-tipping job, I take control of MY OWN MONEY." --- now that just sounds like you are a little bitter my friend! Instead of sitting on your ass reading a college magazine, maybe you should attend college. Then you won't have to work at McDonald's, bitch about tipping and hate on someone that is making more than your cheap ass.
Gayballs
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Well said handsome, but lets get back to the real topic.

""I'm not gay but I suppose you are, aren't you, gayballs?" Now that comment wasn't very Christian like! Would Jesus go around calling people gayballs?"" - Lets ask Christian, he'll know, he knows everything.
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Posted by Mark

My post is not ignorant. (I hate posts that "turbo charge" thier arguments with bold statements before they even make a point) We're talking about tipping, not minimum wage.

The point I'm trying to make is that a 15% tip is my choice, I feel good about giving it. I don't HAVE to give ANY. If you are ungrateful for my 15% tip, I'll just keep it. Is that what you want? Don't blame tippers for low wages, blame the government for low minimum wage rates for tip oriented jobs.

The only response I'm looking for is "Yes, Mark, 15% is a nice tip" and I'll shut up. I never hated on anyone. In fact, I never gave this a second thought. I always gave my 15% tip and walked away feeling pretty good. But now THAT isn't enough. I'm not mad that someone makes more money than me. I'm mad that they want me to feel bad about not giving them more money than I already do! That's called "looking a gift horse in the mouth".

As for the rough life of the single mom: I do feel for them. I will help out by tipping 15%. I've got to put shoes on my own kids, too you know! But more importantly, we ALL should be watching what the government is doing with minimum wages. There are many worse off than the single mom/waitress, believe me.

Now, what's truely ignorant is trying to solve the minimum wage problem by forcing people to tip more. Apply that theory to anyone who is disgruntled by thier wages and you end up with a huge ponzi scheme. Ignorant.

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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Why do you even care if we accept the percentage you tip? I'd say 15% is an alright tip, it's not GOOD, or GREAT, but it is alright. Like minimum wage. It's alright.
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Posted by Mark

Well, actually minimum wage is not alright. It sucks. And that's where the real problem is.

Tips are a nice thing to do. When I lay a $5 tip on the table after the waitress served my family of three (15%) I would be pretty sad if I saw the waitress pick it up and say "what?!? only 15%??" SOmehow, a 15% tip has slipped from being "GOOD" to being just "alright". In a couple years it will have slipped to "shitty".

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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"The point I'm trying to make is that a 15% tip is my choice, I feel good about giving it. I don't HAVE to give ANY. If you are ungrateful for my 15% tip, I'll just keep it. Is that what you want?"---- and spitting in your food and doing other unmentionable things to it is MY choice... is that what you want? Servers and bartenders have an uncanny knack for remembering people that don't tip.
open mouth, insert foot
Posted by Handsome Rogue

I never said that 15% is a bad tip. However, don't act like you are giving me a kidney when you leave it. "Tips are a nice thing to do." WTF? Holding the elevator for someone is a nice thing to do, tipping your server on the other hand should be an obligation. When you go out to eat you should factor in the tip as part of the bill. I don't work just so you can feel good about yourself!
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Posted by Handsome Rogue

Ohhh... and where the hell are you eating where 15% of the bill for a family of three is $5? Waffle House perhaps? And so far as bad tips go... I have given a bad tip back to a patron before and with the retort that perhaps they needed it more than I did.
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Posted by Mark

I do figure it in as part of the bill...15%. I know it's not a kidney, but next time you get a 15% tip don't say, "eh". I don't eat in restaraunts so that the waitress can spit in my drink because I only tipped 15%. You know what really torks me, is restaurants that have a tip already calculated and in the total on the bill. Fine. BUT THEN I get a look for not leaving ADDITIONAL cash on the table! WTF?!? The problem with tips is the government stepped in and said it was OK to pay wait staff LESS than minimum. That's the one you should be mad at.

You gave back a tip? ---ungrateful--- You made a "retort"? That's real nice. If it was a bad tip for the sake of being a slam (like a quarter), then fine. But if the patron was honestly trying to leave a tip, and you spit on them, then you are a bitch. And it's all by YOUR measure of what YOU deserve. ...I'll bet that really made the patrons day, you self-centered ______. Spoiled you are.

By the way, the $5 example WAS from waffle house. You got a problem with less expensive restaraunt patrons? You got a problem with waffle house waitresses? You look down on them or something? I suddenly feel even less apologetic toward you and your "one of the most expensive restaraunts" restaraunt tips. I'll bet you make fun of people that wear K-mart clothes, even though that's all they can afford. Meanwhile, you buy $60 jeans and bitch about low tips.

15%, OK? That's all you get and you'll be grateful. If you get more, consider it a treat. You want to direct your anger at low pay? Don't direct it at the patrons that keep you in business. Direct it at "tip based" minimum wage.

By the way, your "retort" may have really brought a lot of pain. They may have actually needed it, but they were doing the best they could. You are ugly.

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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

money makes people ugly
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Posted by Handsome Rogue

Mark, your previous statement is full of flaws. For one I have never spit in anyones food. I am a firm believer in karma. The main reason that many restaurants add in gratuity is because of cheap schmucks that don't understand the concept of tipping. If everybody left a decent tip there wouldn't be such thing as gratuity being added to the bill.As for your fallacious comment about me looking down on Waffle House waitresses, you were simpy putting words into my mouth. How can you even begin to judge my character, having never met me? As or me giving back a tip to someone, if they really did need it more than I then they shouldn't be eating out in the first place. I seemed to have touched a nerve with you, but before you think that you have some semblance of who I am or what my beliefs are, check with me to confirm your facts.
Minimumomumim
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

A full time job with the normal minimum wage comes out to be about 12 thousand dollars a year before taxes and jobs that pay minimum wage don’t give affordable benefits if the give them at all. Now that sucks ass when you have a family of any size. If your parents are still together and the older sibling can babysit you can have 3 full time jobs total. So things are better financially but they suck at home because your older brother makes shitty PBJs and your family is beyond the financial qualifications for federal assistance. So yes minimum wage sucks ass Mark if we can’t get it raised we should rename “Suck Ass Wage” and yes it should be raised because trickle down economics doesn’t work when the filter it’s trickling through is based on greed. So if you are going to eat out like the rest of my lovely obese America tip AT LEAST the restaurant version of the minimum “Suck Ass Wage” and be real polite. If you can’t tip AT LEAST 15% don’t eat-out. If you are a prick to the waitress you better tip better than “Suck Ass Wage” (AKA 15%).
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Posted by Mark

Fine. Explain the emotion behind these words:

"Ohhh... and where the hell are you eating where 15% of the bill for a family of three is $5? Waffle House perhaps?" What were you getting at? I think I pegged it.

"if they really did need it more than I then they shouldn't be eating out in the first place." And they therefore deserve to be slapped in the face for leaving a "lower than YOUR standard" tip? As for uncovering your character, you are doing a fine job revealing it.

As for the gratuity fee on a bill, I'm actually FOR it. I think EVERY restaraunt should have it. That way, I am no longer responsible for supporting your family. The problem is, like I said, it doesn't remove the "look" you get for not leaving a cash tip.

Okay. We've gotten out of control with this. I give 15% tips, and you like 15% tips. So let's quit. RAISE MINIMUM WAGE!

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Posted by Handsome Rogue

"So things are better financially but they suck at home because your older brother makes shitty PBJs"... that comment made me laugh. One of the reasons that I am so vehement about this subject is because my mom, as a single mother trying to raise 4 young children, worked 2 jobs to support us. One of which was moonlighting as a waitress, just so that we could eat pork and beans and macaroni and cheese every night for dinner. The thought of that alone prompts me to tip well. I too once suffered because an older sibling made shitty PBJs.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"Ohhh... and where the hell are you eating where 15% of the bill for a family of three is $5? Waffle House perhaps?" What were you getting at? I think I pegged it.

Just a guess, Mark, but I think he was getting at the fact that Waffle House has a cheap menu. There is nothing wrong with that.

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Posted by Mark

The tone of the comment was not innocent. You know it and I know it. It had some sort of discrediting feel built into it. Every word of it drips with mock. It wasn't: "$5 as 15% must be a waffle house bill. Nothing wrong with that."

No. It was: "Ohhh... and where the hell are you eating where 15% of the bill for a family of three is $5? Waffle House perhaps?"

Please...save your backpedaling for another discussion.

RAISE MINIMUM WAGE!

Minimum Wage?
Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Minimum Wage? What is that? Do you mean Suck Ass Wage? Yes, I think you mean Suck Ass Wage.
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Posted by Luke Rogers

10% for shitty service
15% for average service
20% for good service...

I think that works pretty well, but it also depends on the size of the bill. I'll typically tips a high percentage on smaller bills (e.g. $1 tip for a $1 coffee). I don't tip change, so I round to the dollar.
If you can't afford the service you shouldn't be buying the food. After all you do go to a restuarant to be SERVED. Otherwise you'd be staying at home cooking.

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Posted by Ray

Instead of raising minimum wage, why dont we kick out all the illegals so there will be jobs for Americans to work? But if we did that, the Mexicans couldnt vote democrat, so thatll never happen.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Careful Ray, the libs here are bound to have your ass for a comment like that even though it is 100% true.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Problem: what makes you think illegals are working jobs that pay above minimum wage? That still leaves the price of minimum wage as a problem. Not to mention illegals tend to work the jobs that Americans tend to think are below them. When is the last time you WANTED to work at Taco Bell or McDonald's?
Now you're getting crazy--I like it
Posted by Mark

Yeah, illegals work the jobs that americans think are "below them". But they think that because of the low wage. Taco Bell wouldn't be "below" many folks if the wages were higher. But illegals (and teenagers) are the perverbial "picket line crossers". In other words, wages will never raise if there are workers that will accept the crappy pay. That's how outsourcing got started in the first place.
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Posted by Ray

You know what, no job is below anyone. You want to suck off my welfare because you are too proud to work at McDonalds... fuck that. If every American had a job and there was under 4% unemployment, then it would be different. But as long as people who were born here or immigrated legally are on welfare, then I say fuck those who sneak in. Deport them all. But Carlos Mencia had the right idea... dont drop them off on the border to try again. Send them to Panama or South America. Make them work to get back to their starting point.

As for the bill in the Senate, I would liek to see what would happen if they vetoed the line about giving illegals the right to vote. Let them receive benefits, pay taxes, etc. but restrict their right to vote. Then let's see how empathetic Congress would be.

toon/tipping
Posted by James

I really like this one. It represents what christianity has become. Regardless of whether your Christian or not, you have to admit the culture of Christianity has become a rather vain one. When it comes to tipping, I say I do what I want. If I feel like leaving a big tip, I do. On the other hand, I dont think its necessary to tip. As workers in the service industry, people who wait in restaurants have to understand the risk of not getting a tip. I dont think it should be expected. If you are an asshole, a shitty waiter, or I just dont like the way you present yourself I probably wont leave a tip. Even if I dont tip im still supporting you by supporting the establishment you work for. You have to earn tips. I thought that was the principle of tipping. Even if you are a single mother who needs the money to feed your kids, whos fault is it if you dont make enough? It may not be fair but I do what I want.
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Posted by James

Though I generally dislike a lot of liberals, I am extremely liberal. However, I too would like to see all the illegals kicked out. There are legal ways of entering the United States and you can either follow that route or dont come at all. I think if the U.S. wants to save itself from becoming spain then were going to have to do something pretty fast. Otherwise, we'll be on a fast track to the ultra liberal heaven. SOCIALISM. Im not inclined to allow 11 million illegals become citizens so I can support their ass with my tax money. They already get free healthcare, attend school, and get driving privlages all without paying taxes and now Democrats AND Republicans in congress want to let them become citizens? Im sick of letting this trash pull down my standard of living. We need to step up border patroll and keep our country secure. If they want to be citizens they can file the paperwork otherwise they can stay the fuck out.
On tipping
Posted by Zoe

SAWR is right, I already wrote this Vent article.

So can we get back to the topic of this one?

to clarify
Posted by Zoe

(and by "this one" I mean Christian's toon)
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Zoe, shut the fuck up. How do you decide what is on topic and what isnt? As long as people are discussing things in a civilized manner, then who cares what its about? Have you ever been talking and thought back on what you started out on? Well, its nice to see whim CENSORING, or at least trying to, what we talk about. How about we talk about how Kinky Max is a worthless piece of crap and shows the quality of work a 5 year old could do. Bugger off
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Posted by Mark

Let's just imagine that they DID file the paperwork. Let's just say that they all went through the proper channels. This country is the "great melting pot". But what stops a particular "ingredient" becoming a majority? Is america supposed to be a majority of caucasians? That's not what our founding fathers had in mind. It's almost as if the idea of a great melting pot was great back when we were a young country, but now we want to close the doors to increasing ratios of ingredients, unless the "sugar" agrees to live a life as "flour".

However, if you continue this game, America becomes a great big game of othello, shifting majority nationalities at the turn of every century, until ultimately the majority for some given time period uses it's power to change the melting pot rules, and they win from then on. So do we do it now? Or later when it is a majority Spanish? When people used to dream of coming to America, they didn't dream of CHANGING it. But they do now. They come here and then get pissed for americans not respecting thier nationality. Hey, if your nationality isn't American, than go home! The myth of a colorless society went out the window when we became forced to celebrate everybodies "pride". Black pride, spanish pride, gay pride -- you name it. It's not helping bring us together, it separates us. English has been fast growing into the international language, but low and behold, now we can't even teach it exclusively in our own country.

Immigration is not the real problem. It's control. And the rules of america (the constitution) allow everyone to have equal control, thus no one has any. Minorities will always leverage the constitution to gain more power---right here within the USA. Someday, it will be me that has to do it. It's like a civilized, polite, civil war. Different nationalities can't co-exist unless someone "sells out" thier "heritage". I could ramble for days on this crap. There's no solution without pissing people off.

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Posted by Ray

I wrote about the pride thing and people were up in arms about it. But yea, I completely agree with that aspect. As for "closing the doors" quotas have always been in place. You know, for the ones who legally come, we only accept 64000 (I think that is the number) of skilled laborers allowed into the country. But no one dares disrespect those who are unskilled. Why is that? I can give you my political answer, but first, I would like to see what y'all think about it
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"Zoe, shut the fuck up. How do you decide what is on topic and what isnt? As long as people are discussing things in a civilized manner, then who cares what its about? Have you ever been talking and thought back on what you started out on? Well, its nice to see whim CENSORING, or at least trying to, what we talk about. How about we talk about how Kinky Max is a worthless piece of crap and shows the quality of work a 5 year old could do. Bugger off"

Wow. You call this an example of "discussing things in a civilized manner"? It was her first comment on the whole thread. And she's right....she DID already write the tipping article.

What exactly is YOUR problem?

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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

Because she came in and added nothing to the argument but a demand to return to the point of this shitty, offensive, pointless and poorly drawn cartoon series. Sorry Zoe, we don't care. Christ on Campus is a joke as is this magazine.
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Posted by Some Anonymous Whim Reader

"Because she came in and added nothing to the argument but a demand to return to the point of this shitty, offensive, pointless and poorly drawn cartoon series. Sorry Zoe, we don't care. Christ on Campus is a joke as is this magazine."

More civilized discussion.

So...which argument? Tipping? Minimum wage? Immigration reform? I think she merely: 1.) responded to the SAWR's suggestion that a Vent article be done on tipping and 2.) suggested a return to the topic of the Toon. What did you find so incredibly offensive about that?

Seriously man, if you really hate this Toon and Whim--why are you here? Seriously.

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Posted by Mark

Look, the cartoon is what it is. But these chats open up REAL conversations with meaning. I think what SAWR was getting at (though could have been nicer to Zoe about it), is that the flow of the conversation doesn't need a moderator, especially when the conversation is vastly more interesting and pertinent than the old "heresy or freedom of speech?" neverending discussion. It's like you walked into a political discussion and said, "did anyone catch Seinfeld last night?"

That's where the "shut the ____ up came from. Like I said, though, he could have been nicer about it.

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