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In Response to Big Steve
Dave Betancourt | Sports Section Manager

3/01/02

Ok, since I created the sports section for Whim, I have received more negative feedback than any section probably in the history of Whim. I rarely get feedback in my articles unless it's from friends and usually when I do get feedback, it's stuff like "sports sucks" and "what's up with the lack of articles" and "why don't you talk about RU stuff," all kinds of crap like that.

The stupid comments in the feedback forum can come until the cows come home. I have done everything in my will to remain calm despite the fact that a certain few people make a weekly effort to completly trash the work that I do once a week. It bothered me at first, but now it doesn't. If you don't like the fact that the Whim sports section doesn't cover RU sports, get over it.

Ever hear of the Tartan? Yeah that's the Radford University newspaper. They cover pretty much every sport at RU. You know how I know, because I'm the friggin sports editor of the sports section for the Tartan and oversee covering all of RU's major sports. There's no point in having two Tartan sports sections. That's why I decided that the Whim sports section would cover everything from the pro's to major college sports, trying to talk about what is big in the sports world. Of course everything that's happening in the sports world isn't going to get covered because in case you haven't noticed, I'm the only writer I've got.

Sure every now and then I get an article from the Fresh Prince himself Mr. Doug McKinney, but Doug's a staff writer for me at the Tartan and is also a freshman, so I'm not going to rag him to much. So if my section isn't up to par with espn.com every week, forgive me. I'm only one man. So as I've stated, dissing my section isn't going to get folks anywhere. Contrary to the two people who have a problem with it, some folks actually enjoy it. One thing I will not tolerate however in my section is ignorance.

In my tidbits section there was a remark left about the statement I made about an African American woman winning a gold metal at the Winter Olympics. Here's what I said.

Vonneta Williams became the first African-American in the history of the world to win a gold medal at the Winter Olympics.  By typing that sentence I became the first African American in the history of the world to admit to watching the Winter Olympics.

Now anyone who reads tidbits knows that it is not meant to be taken seriously. It's for humor. It even says "a sarcastic and comical look at the world of sports". Obviously I was talking about the fact that there just aren't many African-Americans in the winter Olympics and that some African-Americans may not find the winter Olympics interesting. That of course is not true, just a theory. My mother is black and she watched all of the winter Olympics just to give you an example. However one response I got just really disturbed me. Here is the response, unedited.

Name: Big Steve Year: Junior Major: History Comments:

FIRST OF ALL WHAT DOES IT MATTER THAT SHE IS "AFRICAN" AMERICAN. SHE'S AN ATHLETE WHO WON A GOLD MEDAL REPRESENTING HER COUNTRY. THE TERM AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAS NO RELEVANCE ANYWAY. YOU'RE AN AMERICAN. I'M OF IRISH ANCESTRY AND I DON'TR TO MYSELF AS IRISH-AMERICAN. NEXT OLYMPIC HOCKEY IS NOT BETTER THEN THE NHL. THE OLYMPICS ARE JUST THE NHL WITHOUT THE FIGHTING. FIGHTING WOULD'VE MADE IT WORTH WATCHING. THE BEST HOCKEY IS MINOR LEAGUE HOCKEY WHERE MOST OF THE GUYS THERE PLAY THEIR HEARTS OUT EVERY GAME AND ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET TO THE BIG SHOW AND AREN'T A BUNCH OF OVERPRICED SISSIES. AS FOR JALEN ROSE I AGREE HE SHOULD'NT BE ABLE TO COMPLAIN AT ALL, HE'S GETTING PAID OUT THE ARSE TO PLAY A GAME. AND YOU SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKE THAT LITTLE WHINY, OVERRATED, POLE SMOKING B1TCH BOY. BARRY BONDS IS A PERSON WITH AN ATTIUDE THAT DISGUSTS MANY PEOPLE. HE COULD HIT 100 HOMERS AND I'D STILL THINK HE'S A TOOL. AND THE FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED GOLF UNDER THE SPORTS SECTION IS REALLY SAD. HOW CAN YOU CALL SOMETHING A SPORT WHERE A GUY HOLDS UP A QUIET SIGN BEFORE THE PERSON TEES OFF. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK, CHEERLEAING? IS IT FOOTBALL SEASON YET?

Now obviously this guy is talking about more things than just my winter Olympics statement and I'll get to those in a second. But let's get to the main thing. "What does it matter?" When I first saw that I immediately thought back to my high school which was over 90 percent white and when some of my friends would ask why we had a black history assembly. First off I was shocked to see that this "Big Steve" was a history major. I guess in all those history classes they skipped over the whole slavery and cival rights movement. But then again, maybe Chris Rock was right, maybe all we learn is Martin Luther King.

You see "Big Steve", as shocking as this may seem, African-Americans weren't always allowed to do as they please as is the God given right of every red blooded American. You can go back hundreds of years to slavery but you realy only have to go so far as the 60's. Back then African-Americans were anything but American. They couldn't eat or sleep in the same places as the people of main stream society. They weren't allowed to play sports and being in the wrong place at the wrong time could be very dangerous. Sadly that's just the way the world was back then.

So you see "Big Steve" when an African-American does something historic for the first time it matters because for a long long time, they couldn't do anything. When Jackie Robinson became the first African-American in major league baseball it mattered because African-Americans were banned from baesball until that point. When Doug Williams became the first black quarterback to win the Super Bowl and Michael Vick became the first black quarterback ever taken number one overall in the NFL draft, it mattered because for decades NFL teams didn't think African-Americans were smart enough to play quarterback.

Maybe if it were an Irish-American making history in the Olympics you might get a grasp. Well probably not. Hey my great-great-great-great grandfather was an Irish sailor, maybe we're cousins "Big Steve", wouldn't that be great. But enough about that one thing let's get to your other vents.

So you think NHL hockey is better than the Olympics? That's nice. I agree to a point. The NHL is great come playoff time, but they should spend more time promoting their stars then just the violence, which by the way you don't see in the Olympics. Stars like that guy who plays for Calgary by the name of Jarome Iginla, who just happens to be....now brace yourself "Big Steve"...African American! That's right, he's the first African-American to lead the NHL in scoring this late in the season, but you don't know that because all you see in NHL highlights are guys beating the snot out of each other, which is entertaining but only to a point.

Jalen Rose is a sissie huh? Well that's a strong opinion and one that I sure wouldn't say to Jalen Rose's face. And I'm the only person that likes him? I'm sure there are a ton of University of Michigan alumni that would disagree with you. Barry Bonds has always been a little weird to me but hey, he's the new homerun king. So you can't believe I mentioned golf in a sports section. Hmm, ok. Well I do play golf now, I'm a big Tiger Woods fan I admit. You have heard of Tiger haven't you? He was the first African-American to win the Masters and the youngest player ever to win all four majors. That's considered a big deal because golf has easily been documented as one of the most racist sports in American history, not truly opening it's doors to minorities until Tiger broke on to the scene.

I was actually at the New River Golf course with an African-American friend of mine last weekend. It was great, we were able to play 9 holes no problem. Didn't have to carry anybody's bags are anything. Isn't that great?I guess golf isn't a manly sport for you. And no I won't be talking about cheerleading next week and I do miss football, I'm sorry. I played a little in high school. I once dislocated a kids shoulder I hit him so hard ( I was a cornerback). I ran the 40 yard dash in 4.7 seconds and bench pressed 225 pounds when I was 17. I was also captain of the track team. How about you "Big Steve"?

Well I hope this has been educational for everyone who's read it. I would like to thank all of you who do take the time to leave positive remarks in my section that are confidence builders and not in any way offensive. For those of you who like sports, keep reading, for those of you who don't, sorry.

Name: Jenn
Comments:
the spaces in Steve's html tags are partly my fault. I told him about the tags through AIM and thought it was html enabled so I put the spaces in and failed to tell him to leave the spaces out. Sorry guys :-(

Name: html god
Comments:
hey html goddess why were you picking on him? And Big Steve: Make sure you format your paragraph tags without the spaces or they won't work, DAMNIT!

Name: html goddess
Comments:
Big Steve: Make sure you format your paragraph tags without the spaces or they won't work. Not pickin on you, just thought you would like to know.

Comments:
Fire BRADLEY!!!

Name: Dave
Comments:
Oh yeah, the number to WVRU is 831-1271

Name: Dave
Year: Senior
Major: MSTD
Comments:
I did take offense to your comment on the winter Olympics but now that you have fully explained yourself and what you meant I understand the way in which you were trying to state your opinion. Your response and my interpretation of your response came at a really bad time. I had become frustrated with the negative responses I had been receiving from one person in particular who refused to leave their name so when I saw your comment and thought what I thought you said I got extremely upset and angry. My response was about two things, ignorance and the guy who keeps leaving me stupid messages. Obviously by stating your recent readings you are not ignorant and I am truly glad of that. I had been feeling extremely disrespected by the comments dogging my section that I created on my own and felt I needed to stand up for myself. It's hard enough putting this page up every week, doing it by yourself more times than not when I have tartan stuff, and the radio station can be quite crazy. This section is for entertainment and I felt the knocks it was getting by one particular individual were uncalled for. I felt that if I didn't say something than it would continue and the person would think they could hide behind their computer and just bash the heck out of my section till the cows come home. However no matter how stupid and flat out rude people can be when they're hiding behind a computer, this is a fourm open for positive and negative feedback. If the negative feedback is constructive, I'm fine with it, if not, please don't waste the space. Thanks for clearing up the other sports issues, hocky, kobe, etc. Congrats on your athletic accomplishments, there was no need to throw mine in, I was just so ticked at the time I guess I turned into a jock. This was a miscommunication thing. Now that things have been cleard up I'd like the sports section to continue being a place where people can read about hot topics in sports going on and maybe get a good laugh in too. And anyone who wants to talk sports with me feel free to call in to my sports talk radio show on WVRU 89.9 every wednesday from 9-10 pm. Gimme a call.

Name: Fresh Prince
Year: I am a FreshPrince
Major: Journalism
Comments:
Dave my brother I got your back. For those who have a problem with you responding to readers comments I say blow them out just like Maryland did to Duke earlier this year. I mean yeah of course you know that people don't agree with everything you say but I admire how you take the time and respond to those people. It's just like listeners do to Sports Radio and such...I mean hell half the country hates Tony Kornheiser and the other half hates Michael Wilbon (if you're a sports junkie you know they write for the Washington Post and have the show on Espn, PTI) and they hear it day in and day out about it but they step up, just like you have done. Anywho keep up the kick ass job Dave!

Name: Big Steve
Comments:
Dave < p > I realize I could have worded some of the thing that I said better. I also was recently informed that my use of all capital letters could be viewed as me yelling or being angered about what I read or was writing about. I assure that that was not the case just an error on my part in leaving the CAPS lock on. In saying that the term had no relevance I was just trying to say that we should see her as a person who was rewarded for all the hard work she put in to win her medal representing her country. It should not matter what race she is. There was no mention of Olympians who were the first to represent their counries ever in the Winter Olympics this year or an athlete who won their countries first ever winter medal. < p > When I said that fighting would have made the olympic hockey games better it was a sarcastic remark because of how the refs were making the games boring by calling way too many ticky tack penalties. They kept slowing the games down causing me to lose interest. And I am an avid fan who watches alot of hockey (not just for the fights) and yes I do know who Jarome Iginla is and have seen a few of his games. He's a tremendous hockey player who's having a breakout season. I look forward to seeing him for many seasons in the NHL. < p > I never called Jalen Rose a sissy. That comment was about some NHL players who take what they have for granted while many players in the minor leagues would play for free if they could. I like Jalen Rose, the comments about being a whiny player were about Kobe Bryant not Rose. I'm just not a Kobe fan. That is my error for leaving out Bryant's name. < p > You made some comments to my opinion that golf is not a sport. I respect your belief that it is but where did your comments about you and your friend going to the golf course and not being there to carry bags. You were trying to make it sound like I believed that only white people should be allowed to play on the course and everyone else should carry the golf bags and cleaning up. Yes I do know who Tiger Woods is too, I'm just not a fan of the game. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with seeing it as a sport just that I have a different opinion on the matter. I never discredited Bonds as a player just merely stated that I was not too fond of him as a person. < p > You made several blind assumptions about me. Stating that I probably couldn't even grasp the magnitude of an Olympic event even if an Irish-American were participating. I'm not exactly sure what you were trying to say with those remarks. And you also said you were shocked to see that I am a history major implying that I knew nothing of the civil righs movement and slavery. I know about a lot more people than Dr. King. In addtion to reading materials on him I have read books and other things by and about Marcus Garvey, Eldridge Cleaver, Bobby Seal, "Hurricane" Carter, Benjamin Banecker, George Washington Carver, and many others. < p > You wanted to know what I did in high school. When I was a freshman I benched 260 pounds. I was a four year starter at defenseman for my lacrosse team. I was named to the Fisrt Team All District Team and captain of my team. I knocked quite a few people out of games during my career and broke one guy's arm. I apologize if it seems as if I'm bragging about that but you asked what I did. I don't know what our accomplishments in High School have to do with what we have talked about so far. It is good to remember our sports glory days, I wish i still played. < p > Even though we have differing opinions on sports I do think that you are a very good writer and have enjoyed many of your articles published in the Tartan. I would love to come by and talk sports or whatever with you face to face sometime. Just let me know when it would be convenient for you. Maybe you could even teach me some golf seeing how my skills in the game are limited to PUTT-PUTT and the driving range to try and hit passing cars on the road and the ball collection vehicle with golf balls (and a few people too). I didn't want some different opinions to cause any kind of major conflict or serious argument between us when we have not even met and don't know much about the other person. I look forward to your reply. < p > Steve

Name: April
Comments:
Stephanie, Thank you for bringing up Emmett Till. I thought I was the only one who knew the story of the 14 year-old boy who was slain in Mississippi. That is a very valid point you made and I commend you for it.

Name: Dave
Comments:
Thanx Jenn

Name: Jenn
Comments:
I know you've been given a lot of crap about your section Dave, and I wish you had some more writers. I understand that you don't want to repeat what you put in the Tartan. I'm happy to see the amount of articles you have this week

Steve just made a comment to one of your articles, that's what the feedback forms are for. So you don't agree with everything he said, that's understandable. We can't all have the same opinions about everything. Last year someone pretty much called me ignorant and said I sounded anti-american in one of my articles last year. I was offended and it still lingers on my mind today, but I didn't write a whole new article article in response. I just let it go, because they don't know me. You shouldn't let a few people's comments upset you like this. You know that there are other people who think you are a great writer and fully support you.

Name: Dave
Year: Senior
Major: MSTD
Comments:
Look, I never said I wanted nothing but love. If you disagree with an aritcle from a sports perspective that's great that's what sports writing is about, I even let the stuff about the section being bad slide(which took some convincing) but I was not about to let that comment just sit there like it was ok. I still see people are leaving messages without there name...to those, please come by moffet 102 east and let's have a face to face conversation.

Name: Brian Korte
Comments:
When you open your site up to public feedback, you don't always get "hey, way to go!" comments. That's life man. Handle comments as you receive them. Opting to write about an idiot's post only encourages more idiots to share their minds. But beware- don't make the mistake of asking for feedback and shunning opinions that you specifically asked for. That could be bad. That being said, I say continue doing what you're doing, Dave. I think you're doing just fine.

Comments:
I think this belongs in the Vent section or on BAP's webpage if they got one.

Name: Stephanie Saunders
Year: Junior
Major: English
Comments:
Give him hell Dave; what a great way to refute an ignorant argument. I don't understand why ANYONE would say "the term African-American has no releveance anyway." This History major should try telling that to the mothers of the four little girls who wer blown up in a Birmingham church bombing during the Civil Rights Movement, or to the mother of Emmett Till, who discovered that her son had been brutally murdered and thrown in a river after calling a white woman "Baby," (by the way, the white men who did it were aquitted by an all-white jury). It matters. Maybe he DOES need to brush up on his history a bit more. And about the African American to which he referred, the fact that she is also a WOMAN matters too. :) Okay, I've said my piece. Keep up the good work Dave.